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JUst curious but was there a specific reason you made Nadine South African?

Not really tbh. I just think South Africans are cool and that they have badass accents and that’s just what comes to mind when I think of a rugged, gritty mercenary :p Also I think I’d been watching Neill Blomkamp films over and over at the time I thought up that headcanon and just thought “yo what if Kruger from Elysium was female” and then somewhere out of that, my version of Nadine was born. Except, you know, she’s not working for the oppressors but is a ruthless sonofabitch because she’s all about revenge against the Bad Guys.

Also I felt that her being South African would kind of fit in to the Peace Walker timeline and the general narrative. I haven’t expounded on this in any of my fics yet, but a little spoiler for her backstory is that she joined MSF after quitting SAP, which she’d joined in 1972 when they hired their first female officers. She really didn’t like the orders coming down from the upper brass or having to enforce apartheid bullshit, so the moment she caught wind of MSF, she got the hell out of dodge and went to mercenary work. I also figured it’d be a fitting ~bonding moment~ for her and Kaz later on because there wasn’t a lot of advancement opportunities for women in the police force back then, and Kaz would be able to empathize because of his similar experiences with JSDF. 

Imagine one day, one of the MSF soldiers comes back in really bad shape. Maybe it’s one of the female soldiers that Kaz had been fooling around with, so he’s really concerned and kinda panicky, and our medic has to do his best to reassure him and then goes to work trying to save her, but it’s…really bad, and he can’t. He loses the patient, and Kaz loses someone he was intimate with. Obviously they’re both really shaken up over it.

So medic visits Kaz in his office later, like, “Hey, casualties are gonna be a thing here, I get that, but I hate losing patients and this one looked like it could have been prevented and I wonder if we would have lost that soldier if I’d been the medic on the helicopter doing emergency triage, rather than whatever field medic is assigned to these missions.” 

And Kaz is super protective of the people he cares about, and he already has to constantly deal with Snake and various other soldiers he’s…fraternized with getting sent out on dangerous missions, so he feels like he has some marginal semblance of control over at least keeping his medic safe, so he just…doesn’t assign him to missions and keeps him on the base. And medic’s not cool with that, because he’s proficient in combat and also a veteran physician, so he has a lot to offer here. 

Kaz makes some bullshit excuse, like “You’re our most qualified doctor, you’re needed more on the base” but medic sees right through it and tells him that he can’t let his personal feelings influence their work, and that just because they’re seeing each other and have something resembling a serious relationship, Kaz doesn’t get to treat him like a porcelain doll and keep him confined to the base.

And so Kaz is like, “I’m not telling you as your lover, I’m telling you as your Commander, and that’s final.”

And medic is livid, like he can’t believe Kaz is pulling rank within their relationship. So he just snaps a sort of flippant salute and storms out of the office and doesn’t speak to Kaz for a while.

So finally one day, Kaz is like, “Yeah, shit, I’m being unreasonable. There’s a really important mission Snake is taking tonight, I want you on the helicopter with him.”

It’s the mission where Snake is extracting Paz from Camp Omega.

Something you said a while ago about Ronan listening to Kaz’s heartbeat when he’s asleep…It takes Kaz a couple of weeks to get used to sleeping with the weight of Ronan’s head on his chest, but after MSF is destroyed and Ronan ‘killed’, he can’t sleep at all except for snatches, for months on end, and he’s never really sure what’s setting him on edge. It’s not until nine years later he wakes up with Venoms head on his chest after that he realises what was missing

I’ve kinda already started to cover this in chapter 3 a little o(^◇^)o

Sometimes Kaz wakes up confused with his hand hovering just over his chest, because he’s still in the habit of instinctively stroking Ronan’s hair in his sleep. That sleepy muscle memory reflex never really goes away, so occasionally he accidentally does it to the Person of the Night when he starts fucking through the locals wherever the contracts take him, to the point where he just starts skipping out immediately after it’s over so he doesn’t have to spend the night and do anything awkward.

When they share a bed for the first time after finally being reunited, the first thing Venom does is lay his head down on Kaz’s chest, and it’s such a relieving sound because V knows how close Kaz came to being gone forever.

It feels….familiar, he’s sure he’s done this before but he doesn’t have any active memories of it. T_T
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I mean of course Ocelot cares more than he lets on sometimes, just look at Kaz’s rescue mission, you so much as squirt him with the water pistol and Ocelot blows a fucking gasket and screams at you

And when you finally find Kaz at that outpost, Ocelot can barely hide the hope and excitement in his voice. “Wait – is that..??”

Or if you gently set Kaz down and move more than two meters away, Ocelot panics. “That’s Miller! You can’t just LEAVE HIM THERE!!!”

And when Kaz has his outbursts, Ocelot is accidentally on purpose gentle with him, like with Quiet shooting at the helicopter blades, Ocelot just kind of delicately puts a hand on his shoulder to restrain him

Kaz is oblivious to his feelings and continues to hate him

Ocelot is Secretly Pining Over Kaz 2K16, who’s with me on this

Totally agree. Also when Venom brings Quiet to MB, after the cinematic Ocelot says “Leave Miller to me”. He’s the one who will handle Kaz’s anger instead of Venom.

My perverted ass just likes to imagine Kaz had Ocelot take the cane to his ass to help him clear his head a little
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Right at the beginning too, when Venom gets out of the hospital, Ocelot says something along the lines of how a man told him to rescue him, and then rescue the man himself, which is obviously Miller. Firstly, you can hear a sort of reverence in his voice when he says that, almost like he’s in awe of him. Secondly, I guess you could argue that now that they’ve got Venom, Miller would become less vital to Diamond Dogs (not completely disposable obviously, more in the sense that Venom means they still have a commander and they’re not going to fall apart just because Miller’s gone) so losing him won’t mean the end of Diamond Dogs, but Ocelot won’t even consider leaving him, even though it means pushing an almost totally unproven Venom into a potentially very risky mission less than two weeks out of a nine year coma. I think there was a real risk of that mission going hideously wrong, but Miller would die a horrible death otherwise, and Ocelot couldn’t stand it

My favourite reason for replaying the Phantom Limbs mission is just listening to Ocelot keep stressing how important it is that Kaz is rescued right now immediately and just hearing his tone of voice as he’s talking about him. And when you come up on
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and Ocelot’s like “That’s it, that’s where they’re holding Miller.  ……….I hope to hell he’s alright” or somesuch, and then he promptly follows up with a half-ass neutral thing to deflect like “……….He’s not your average client.” Which is like. REALLY, OCELOT. NICE SAVE, YOU’RE NOT OBVIOUS AT ALL YOU COY KITTEN.

Also I like to think that when Ocelot went after Miller before the Shadow Moses incident, he had an emotional breakdown the moment he saw him and couldn’t go through with killing him, so he helped him fake his death instead, mostly as a ruse to fool Liquid. Neurotoxins like tetrodotoxin have capabilities of inducing a coma that mimics death, and so while Kaz is in that weird catatonic state where he’s vaguely aware of what’s going on around him but is paralyzed and can’t move or speak, Ocelot takes all the necessary precautions to ensure he survives the poisoning and confesses how he feels about him while he’s keeping him stable.

Kaz doesn’t remember any of it when he finally recovers. T_T

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I also think that Ocelot helped Kaz fake his death, no way he could had killed him ;__;

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Was it one of you guys who was recently saying how the animosity between Ocelot and Kaz seems pretty one-sided on Kaz’s part? Cause I noticed that too, and it’s a very interesting thing. All their bickering tends to be on the impersonal side, too; more “that idea/decision is terrible”, surprisingly little “that idea is terrible and you are an asshole.” It’s funny how Ocelot, the guy we know from MGS1 as Blackhat McBackstab, ends up coming across as having a muted compassionate side. It would be fascinating to see more of how they interact as Kaz calms down from being preoccupied with revenge and hating everything. I can definitely see Ocelot as the one who’d be inclined to offer an olive branch.

Or cane. I am 100% down with that, too (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

(Also, if you happen to, say, be an idiot and jump down something too high while carrying Miller so you drop him, Ocelot gets hilariously mad. Don’t ask how I know this.) 

Haha yeah, that was me. I’ve been compulsively replaying missions over and over so that I can revisit really subtle details for when I’m writing fic, and it’s something that became really conspicuous after multiple playthroughs. It’s also really interesting to see how toned down Ocelot’s gotten since MGS3, like he seems almost humbled. I touched upon the weird one-sided dynamic between them a little in my last fic, but I’m definitely revisiting it a lot more in the future. There’s just so much delicious potential for suffering there.

Toned-down Ocelot was sad in some ways, because I love him being a big goofy theatrical dork, but also interesting because you get to see there’s a quieter human side along with all the supervillain drama. 
But really I just wanted to say that dang, that was a good fic. Really made the dynamic between them feel right, and that is a hard, hard thing to do. 

omg thank youuuu (//∇//)

It was honestly one of the most challenging things I’ve written, it took me months to perfect Ocelot’s ‘voice’ and how he relates to Kaz without being super OOC

I mean of course Ocelot cares more than he lets on sometimes, just look at Kaz’s rescue mission, you so much as squirt him with the water pistol and Ocelot blows a fucking gasket and screams at you

And when you finally find Kaz at that outpost, Ocelot can barely hide the hope and excitement in his voice. “Wait – is that..??”

Or if you gently set Kaz down and move more than two meters away, Ocelot panics. “That’s Miller! You can’t just LEAVE HIM THERE!!!”

And when Kaz has his outbursts, Ocelot is accidentally on purpose gentle with him, like with Quiet shooting at the helicopter blades, Ocelot just kind of delicately puts a hand on his shoulder to restrain him

Kaz is oblivious to his feelings and continues to hate him

Ocelot is Secretly Pining Over Kaz 2K16, who’s with me on this

Do you ever wonder if the Miller/Ocelot rivalry is one-sided? Like Kaz isn’t exactly subtle about how much he hates Ocelot, but I don’t think Ocelot hates or even dislikes Kaz. I feel like he’s very guarded and sometimes defensive around him because of how hostile Kaz always is toward him, but I think Ocelot actually cares a lot about Kaz and can’t really show it because he knows just how much Kaz hates him. Just pay close attention to the beginning, when Ocelot is debriefing Venom right after he rescues him from the hospital. He sounds borderline protective, even marginally plaintive and worried, and keeps stressing urgency in how important it is that we get Kaz the fuck out of there right now.

Also I think about what they got up to while V and BB were asleep, like it’s very clear that they worked together for an undisclosed amount of time before Venom came to MB. I’m pretty sure there was some hate sex and some serious BDSM that went on, but I think Ocelot might have genuinely started enjoying intimacy with Kaz while Kaz only saw him as an object and a distraction.

And then at the end where they’re discussing BB’s plan and how one will have to kill the other, Ocelot sounds pretty dejected and like he genuinely doesn’t want it to come to that, like he’s trying to talk Kaz down and maybe make one last attempt at being something resembling friends, but Kaz is pretty staunchly like fuck off. So you can imagine how difficult it must have been when Ocelot finally goes to kill Master Miller. Or that Ocelot simply can’t do it and just ends up helping Kaz fake his death.

***also fuck he was holding on to Kaz’s sunglasses for hell knows how long and knew the importance of getting them back to him I mean jesus come the fuck on

idk I just like the idea of Ocelot being secretly heartbroken over two one-sided romances and developing that cocky attitude as a defense mechanism for how much he’s pining over men who will never see him the way he wants them to

Imagine Medic and Kaz almost getting caught. Like, they’re just cuddling in bed or something and Big Boss comes (because I can’t really see him bothering to knock on Kaz’s door). Medic barely has time to dive under the bed before he sees him, and then has to stay silent while listening to Kaz getting fucked through the mattress

They both know Kaz’s quarters aren’t safe, so they don’t typically… fraternize there. Sometimes they’ll sneak into an empty room on the medical platform, or Medic’s own room because he’s Mother Base’s attending physician/chief of staff so he actually gets his own quarters and it’s pretty much their safe place. =D

Kaz totally loves the thrill of possibly getting caught though, so sometimes they’ll fool around in places where they might be found out. BB actually even catches Medic edging a naked Kaz in Kaz’s quarters once, but medic is a smooth motherfucker, keeps a totally straight face and plays it off like Kaz had an embarrassing medical problem and preferred to be seen in the privacy of his own quarters and BB doesn’t even question it. He actually thanks Medic for being so sympathetic to Kaz’s need for discretion and commends him on his impeccable bedside manner, and Kaz nearly explodes from suppressed laughter.

Additionally, because Medic is kind of a savage when he needs to be, any time he’s had to hide at the last minute and listen to BB get a little too rough for comfort with Kaz, or ignoring Kaz’s safeword/no, he later gives BB a run for his money during training sessions, CQCs the living fuck out of him and regularly gives BB the beating of a lifetime when they’re sparring on the beach. BB totally admires having such a competent soldier (He was always the best man we had), has no idea it’s secret revenge, just kinda grunts and takes it when Medic is a little too rough for comfort when patching him up afterwards.

(Kaz regularly jerks off to memories of Medic beating the crap out of BB)

Do you ever just…………think about how Davesnake prolly had idle moments during the Shadow Moses incident where he fondly reminisced to Master Miller over the radio about the kinky sex they have or whatever and Liquid’s on the other end just like ……………….. D: D: D: *play it cool play it cool your brother just described in great detail about his cum-filled asshole juST FLIRT BACK U CAN DO THIS ELI* and it’s just, like, really awk

*creeps in and whispers* MSF boys go outside to a local bar and somebody else starts flirting with Medic. Kaz didn’t realise he could get so insanely jealous until Medic casually flirts back and gets dragged home by pissed off Commander Miller

Oh man and Medic has GAME, too. He’s been peacocking in the clubs since before he was old enough to drink so he works that coy act that has everyone chasing after him. Even the women are like 
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and Medic pretends to be oblivious to it to avoid awkwardness but Kaz is envious at how easily Medic seems to seduce people when he’s not even trying ^_^ ^_^